Jason Kincaid over at TechCrunch has a blog post entitled Microsoft’s First Step In Accepting OpenID SignOns - HealthVault where he writes
Over 16 months after first declaring its support for the OpenID authentication platform, Microsoft has finally implemented it for the first time, allowing for OpenID logins on its Health Vault medical site. Unfortunately, Health Vault will only support authentication from two OpenID providers: Trustbearer and Verisign. Whatever happened to the Open in OpenID? The rationale behind the limited introduction is that health is sensitive, so access should be limited to the few, most trusted OpenID providers. It certainly makes sense, but it also serves to underscore one of the problems inherent to OpenID: security...But it seems that the platform itself may be even more deserving of scrutiny. What good is a unified login when its default form will only be accepted on the least private and secure sites?
Over 16 months after first declaring its support for the OpenID authentication platform, Microsoft has finally implemented it for the first time, allowing for OpenID logins on its Health Vault medical site. Unfortunately, Health Vault will only support authentication from two OpenID providers: Trustbearer and Verisign. Whatever happened to the Open in OpenID?
The rationale behind the limited introduction is that health is sensitive, so access should be limited to the few, most trusted OpenID providers. It certainly makes sense, but it also serves to underscore one of the problems inherent to OpenID: security...But it seems that the platform itself may be even more deserving of scrutiny. What good is a unified login when its default form will only be accepted on the least private and secure sites?
A while back I mentioned that the rush to slap "Open" in front of every new spec written by a posse of Web companies had created a world where "Open" had devolved into a PR marketing term with no real meaning since the term was being used too broadly to define different sorts of "openness". In the above case, the "open" in OpenID has never meant that every service that accepts OpenIDs needs to accept them from every OpenID provider.
Simon Willison, who's been a key evangelist of OpenID, has penned an insightful response to Jason Kincaid's article in his post The point of “Open” in OpenID which is excerpted below
TechCrunch report that Microsoft are accepting OpenID for their new HealthVault site, but with a catch: you can only use OpenIDs from two providers: Trustbearer (who offer two-factor authentication using a hardware token) and Verisign. "Whatever happened to the Open in OpenID?", asks TechCrunch’s Jason Kincaid. Microsoft’s decision is a beautiful example of the Open in action, and I fully support it. You have to remember that behind the excitement and marketing OpenID is a protocol, just like SMTP or HTTP. All OpenID actually provides is a mechanism for asserting ownership over a URL and then “proving” that assertion. We can build a pyramid of interesting things on top of this, but that assertion is really all OpenID gives us (well, that and a globally unique identifier). In internet theory terms, it’s a dumb network: the protocol just concentrates on passing assertions around; it’s up to the endpoints to set policies and invent interesting applications.... HealthVault have clearly made this decision due to security concerns—not over the OpenID protocol itself, but the providers that their users might choose to trust. By accepting OpenID on your site you are outsourcing the security of your users to an unknown third party, and you can’t guarantee that your users picked a good home for their OpenID. If you’re a bank or a healthcare provider that’s not a risk you want to take; whitelisting providers that you have audited for security means you don’t have to rule out OpenID entirely.
TechCrunch report that Microsoft are accepting OpenID for their new HealthVault site, but with a catch: you can only use OpenIDs from two providers: Trustbearer (who offer two-factor authentication using a hardware token) and Verisign. "Whatever happened to the Open in OpenID?", asks TechCrunch’s Jason Kincaid.
Microsoft’s decision is a beautiful example of the Open in action, and I fully support it.
You have to remember that behind the excitement and marketing OpenID is a protocol, just like SMTP or HTTP. All OpenID actually provides is a mechanism for asserting ownership over a URL and then “proving” that assertion. We can build a pyramid of interesting things on top of this, but that assertion is really all OpenID gives us (well, that and a globally unique identifier). In internet theory terms, it’s a dumb network: the protocol just concentrates on passing assertions around; it’s up to the endpoints to set policies and invent interesting applications.... HealthVault have clearly made this decision due to security concerns—not over the OpenID protocol itself, but the providers that their users might choose to trust. By accepting OpenID on your site you are outsourcing the security of your users to an unknown third party, and you can’t guarantee that your users picked a good home for their OpenID. If you’re a bank or a healthcare provider that’s not a risk you want to take; whitelisting providers that you have audited for security means you don’t have to rule out OpenID entirely.
The expectation that services would have to create a white list of OpenID providers is not new thinking. Tim Bray blogged as much in his post on OpenID over year ago where he speculated that there would eventually be a market for rating OpenID providers so companies wouldn't have to individually audit each OpenID provider before deciding which ones to add to their white list.
As more companies decide to accept OpenID as a login mechanism on their services, I suspect that either the community or some company will jump in to fill the niche that Tim Bray speculated about in his post. I can't imagine that it is fun having to audit all of the OpenID providers as part of deciding how people will login to your site nor does it make sense that everyone who plans to support OpenID security audits the same list of services. That sounds like a ton of wasted man hours when it can just be done once then the results shared by all.
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