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RSS Bandit 1.5.x (Jubilee) Release Candidate Installer Available
We are now feature complete for the next release of
RSS Bandit
and it's time to get the final bits of user testing before we declare the bits golden. You can obtain the installer from
RssBandit.1.5.0.5.Jubilee.RC.zip
. We've fixed a number of major bugs that were discovered during the beta including crashes related to building the Lucene search index and podcasts being repeatedly downloaded after the first successful download attempt. I'd like to thank all the people who tried out the beta and gave us feedback. Windows Vista users should be especially happy with this release since is the first version of
RSS Bandit
(ever) to work on that operating systems with no problems.
The major new features and bug fixes since the last official release (v.1.3.0.42) are listed below. There will be a comprehensive list of bug fixes and new features in the announcement for the final release. New features and bug fixes since the last beta are marked as
.
New Features
Comment Watching
Items marked as read when viewed in the Newspaper
Date-based grouping in the list view
Options for opening tabs in the background
Favicons
Enclosures treated as attachments
Certain user defined enclosures treated as podcasts including adding to playlists in iTunes and Windows media player
Remembering application state on restart
- This will work similar to the
Session Saver extension
in Firefox in that open tabs and the tree view state will be remembered on restart
Revamping the search feature
- We've moved the implementation of feed search to
Lucene.Net
from our custom feed search implementation which should make searches faster and provide richer search options. The syntax for performing Lucene search queries is available at
http://lucene.apache.org/java/docs/queryparsersyntax.html
.
Support for
Atom Threading Extensions
Easily configurable keyboard shortcuts
- Just right-click when hovering over the toolbar menu and choose "Customize". This feature came as a freebie from switching to
Infragistics NetAdvantage
for some of our UI components.
Major Bug Fixes
Feed items appear in wrong feed folders
- we now apply a set of heuristics to prevent this problem from surfacing ever again. I'm pretty sure this problem is due to bugs in
HTTP Pipelining
. However it is unclear whether the bugs are in the .NET Frameworks HTTP library, proxy servers that
RSS Bandit
is passing through or the Web servers that the application is fetching feeds from.
Relative Links in Atom 1.0 feeds appear incorrectly
- now that this is fixed the links
Tim Bray
and
Sam Ruby's
feeds now work correctly
Atom feeds from the Blogger beta site show no posts when viewed in RSS Bandit
- this was just a dumb bug on my part.
Sites with malformed cookies cause feeds not to be fetched
- Specifically, fetching cookies from sites such as
Windows Live Spaces
results in the "An error has occurred when parsing Cookie header". Now we just ignore the error and soldier on.
RSS Bandit needs administrator privileges on first run
- the fix for this was so esoteric it boggles my mind.
RSS Bandit stops downloading feeds after a while
- This was actually two bugs. The first was that the application stopped automatically downloading feeds if any of them timed out while being fetched. The other was that feeds with whitespace in the URLs were not being updated.
Application doesn't work in Windows Vista
- this has been tracked down to our use of old versions of the
Divelement controls
. Although these issues have been fixed in newer versions of the
Divelement controls
we have decided to move to
NetAdvantage for Windows Forms controls
for unrelated reasons. The new controls should work fine in Windows Vista.
Application crashes with NullReferenceException during Web browsing
- this is another issue which should be fixed with our move to the
NetAdvantage for Windows Forms controls
.
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Monday, 22 January 2007 09:29:25 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Any reason you didn't implement an IFilter for the RSS bandit data store so that users could then use the same syntax for querying as they do in WDS 3.0 on XP/2003 and Windows Search in Vista?
Would also allow users to perform the query from outside RSS Bandit, e.g. via the Vista Start menu, allow users to create 'saved searches' in Vista etc.
Cheers
Sean McLeod
Monday, 22 January 2007 11:30:38 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Sweetness!
1st impressions
=It's faster ( guessing that this is partly major bug fix RSS Bandit stops downloading feeds after a while )
=I love the new "Items marked as read when viewed in newspaper)
=favicons.....ooooooo.......pretty :)
=I already liked Comment Watching from the previous beta....(I think this is RSSBandit's killer app....(especially useful for Intra company blogs :))
Thanks guys,
Alex
alexalex
Monday, 22 January 2007 14:46:16 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Sean McLeod,
My investigation showed that writing a custom IFilter and integrating WDS into my application was a lot more work than using Lucene. I actually talked this over with some folks from the WDS team and they agreed with my conclusions.
Dare Obasanjo
Monday, 22 January 2007 17:06:51 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
One thing that was better in the previous version, was that the width of the feeds pane was saved. With version 1.5, the feed pane always has a default width (which is not wide enough for me).
Martin
Monday, 22 January 2007 18:57:45 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Good news! I really like the addition of "Items marked as read when viewed in the Newspaper". But I found that sometimes it stops working. If I select another folder and then return it starts to mark the times read again.
Jimmy Bergmark
Monday, 22 January 2007 19:02:15 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I can't install it on My Windows Vista Enterprise x64 (French).
The installer gave me the following error :
« Installation incomplete. The installer was interrupted before RssBandit could be installed. You need to restart the installer to try agin. »
After that the installation rollback, the msiexe.exe service return an error 1603 (event log) and it crash.
To help debugging, I've put up a zip file with a 'procmon log file', an 'msi log file' and the 'application log events'(http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/paradisj/RSSBanditDebug.zip).
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Jean-Pierre,
Note : The previous beta (v1.5.0.2) didn't install either on my system.
Can't install on Vista
Monday, 22 January 2007 19:18:18 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Thanks Dare! The RC rocks!
Apo
Monday, 22 January 2007 21:39:31 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Please, please, please allow me to turn off "Items marked as read when viewed in the Newspaper".
I read in NewsPaper view all the time, and I leave some items in a feed unread when I want to read them later, or at home. In my 2 minute test just scrolling through the unread items marked them as read. For me this is a deal breaker, and I will not/can not upgrade. Are there any plans to make it configurable? You could make it on by default. [UPDATE] I just figured out that if I set the customer formatter under the display options, this goes away. Never mind this.
Another suggestion for improvement. In 1.3.0.42, I could select a bunch of feed items, right click on them, then perform an action (like mark unread). When I right click on an item that is part of a multiple selection, that single item ends up being selected and nothing else.
Something else that I miss is the total number of unread items.
Searching doesn't seem to work at all. But it works quickly. I am searching through all my feeds, through all search items for a word that I know is in the title of one of the posts on my blog. Nothing is returned. It doesn't seem to matter what I search for, nothing seems to ever get returned.
I like the new look of the controls, and I love the favicon display.
How do I turn on the session restore? Does it only happen on crash, or does it work on shut down and start up too?
Greg Fox
Monday, 22 January 2007 22:16:54 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Greg,
>In 1.3.0.42, I could select a bunch of feed items, right click on them, then perform an action (like mark unread). When I right click on an item that is part of a multiple selection, that single item ends up being selected and nothing else.
This should work if you hold down the CTRL key while clicking. This is consistent with how most Windows applications enable multi-select.
>Something else that I miss is the total number of unread items
Yeah, we should bring that back.
>Searching doesn't seem to work at all. But it works quickly. I am searching through all my feeds, through all search items for a word that I know is in the title of one of the posts on my blog. Nothing is returned.
Weird. Do you have the checkbox in the search options set to ONLY look at the title? Also the problem may be that the search index hasn't been fully built yet. This should resolve itself after the app has been running for a while.
>How do I turn on the session restore? Does it only happen on crash, or does it work on shut down and start up too?
It should remember the tree view state on restart. Remembering open browser tabs hasn't been implemented but should be before the final.
Dare Obasanjo
Monday, 22 January 2007 23:41:29 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Thanks for the quick reply.
Multi-selection works fine, but I can't perform an action on that selection. Whenever I right click on one of the selected items to bring up the context menu, my selection gets undone, and the one item I right clicked on ends up being the only one selected, and therefore the only one that receives the action.
I bet the searching issue is related to not being run very long. Is there an easy way to run Jubilee side by side with 1.3.0.42? ie each runs using a different app data directory? The search options were all checked, as were all my feed directories.
Thanks for all your hard work on this app. It truly is an excellent piece of software. Congrats on being so close to a release too.
Greg Fox
Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:34:24 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Greg,
What happens if you hold down the [Ctrl] key until you right-click? That works for me.
>The search options were all checked, as were all my feed directories.
This may be the problem. The current search only returns results if it is in ALL of the checked fields. So if you check "Title", "Description" and "Topic" then it only returns results if the search term is found in all three fields on an item.
Dare Obasanjo
Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:01:21 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Ahh, I see. To bring up the context menu for a selection of items, I have to ctrl+click. That really isn't intuitive, and isn't like windows at all. It is even worse if I have clicked on on item, then shift+clicked another (to select those 2 and everything in between). To bring up the context menu, I then have to ctrl+click.
In windows explorer, with a selection of files highlighted, I can right click and bring up the propertied. In 1.3.0.42 of RSS Bandit I could do the same. The requirement to ctrl+click will drive me insane.
As for the searching, what if I remember that a blog post somewhere had something to do with an "aquarium", but I can't remember if that was in the title or in the body, or elsewhere? The search description "Check all fields that you want searched" to me indicated that it will look in all the fields, an OR situation, not an AND situation. Just my thoughts.
Greg Fox
Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:37:41 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Well, it's still not working for me, on Vista Ultimate RTM. It installs just fine, but whenever I launch it, I get a UAC message that an unknown application is trying to access my system; I allow the access and then I get the little dialog that says RSS Bandit has stopped working and Windows is checking for a solution. :)
I even tried running it in XPSP2 compatibility mode as an administrator... no luck.
I'm really anxious to get back to RSS Bandit from Feed Demon. After being spoiled for so many years with Bandit, nothing else quite satisfies!
Kenneth LeFebvre
Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:32:03 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Like Kenneth above I have also been waiting for a version of RSSBandit that works on Vista as I am using RSSReader (freeware) which is alright but not great in the mean time.
I was extremely pleased at this posting for all of 20sec as when I install Bandit I get almost to the end of the install and then it automatically rolls out with a
"something interupted RSSBandit installer. RSSbandit has not been installed".
I have not / do not want to try any half ass work around. I am running Win Vista Ultimate RTM (MSDN Subrscriber Downloads distro).
Any thoughts would be most appreciated. If there are any logs that I can forward to help you fix this then just ask. I am not a Vista expert but I do have a large amount of computer knowledge (expert in some peoples eyes but then how do define expert as I can program PHP so I don't now everything)
Thanks for a great program (RSSBandit is one of the reasons I have not upgraded to Vista on all my PC's as I like / use it so much), and I look forward to a resolution soon.
John Whittingham
John Whittingham
Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:02:58 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
>> In 1.3.0.42, I could select a bunch of feed items, right click on them, then perform an action (like mark unread). When I right click on an item that is part of a multiple selection, that single item ends up being selected and nothing else.
> This should work if you hold down the CTRL key while clicking. This is consistent with how most Windows applications enable multi-select.
I strongly disagree, it is counter-intuitive and not in line with Windows Explorer or MS Office behavior of the last decade, right-clicking on a *selected* item in a multi-selection does not change the selection range. I don't know if this has changed for Office >2003 or Vista.
Kristoffer
Tuesday, 23 January 2007 19:31:29 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Kristoffer,
I agree this is a bug. I'll look at fixing this.
Kenneth,
What version of the .NET Framework do you have installed? We've found some security related exceptions which we need to handle when running .NET v2.0 on Vista.
John,
Can you mention what versions of Vista (including whether it is 64 bit) and the .NET Framework you have installed?
Dare Obasanjo
Wednesday, 24 January 2007 01:59:18 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I've got .NET 2.0 and 3.0 on my machine. I haven't tried turning off UAC altogether, as I assumed running a specific application as administrator would essentially be the same. Is there a difference?
I don't mind turning off UAC until there's a permanent fix, if that'll solve the problem. I only turned it back on, recently, so that I could fully experience what my users experience. :)
Kenneth LeFebvre
Wednesday, 24 January 2007 08:22:47 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Looks like I found a showstopper bug on Windows XP SP2. The entire top panel is replaced by a big red X. I've uploaded a screenshot on my website:
http://www.kynosarges.de/images/RssBanditBug.png
A minor issue: the position of the divider bar between the subscription list on the left and the other panels on the right should be saved between sessions.
Thanks, and keep up the good work!
Chris Nahr
Wednesday, 24 January 2007 08:49:44 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
More details...
I got this bug during normal operation, no idea how. The only thing I changed compared to a normal install was NGen'ing the assemblies. After a shutdown and restart of RSS Bandit the bug quickly reappeared.
Then I did a repair installation, and so far the bug did not reappear. NGen says the precompiled assemblies are still up-to-date.
Chris Nahr
Wednesday, 24 January 2007 12:22:47 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Just upgraded to the to Jubilee reader and noticed that the new scroll auto read feature, doesnot work , it visually changes the icon on the top left to read but , doesnot actually mark the item as read.<br />Secondly , like someone mentioned earlier , the multiselect right click is also quite irritating, i am sure it used to work with the previous version ; now i have to use the control key.<br />Thirdly is there a way to expand all items in the feed subscriptions tab / My Feeds section ?
ajay.mahale@gmail.com (Ajay Mahale)
Wednesday, 24 January 2007 22:44:26 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Chris Nahr,
Thanks for reporting the showstopper bug. We'll make sure it is fixed before the final release.
ajay,
I'll fix the multiselect issue before the final release. There isn't a quick way to expand all nodes under "My Feeds". Are you sure the mark read as you scroll feature doesn't actually mark the item as read yet changes the display in the newspaper. That's really weird.
Dare Obasanjo
Thursday, 25 January 2007 07:05:55 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Hi Dare,<br /><br />I retried the mark as read , as you read feature in my preview window, and realised that in my case the protocol handler for marking as read and flagging an item donot seem to work period;even when i click the icons in the preivew window, in both the newpaper as well item selection modes .No errors pop ups but even if i click them in the preview pane the actions seem to toggle the icons but the necessary actions are not being performed.Smells like a case of silent try{}catch-Do Nothing block :>.If you want i could send you a screen shot of what i am experiencing.<br />While i was composing this message, i realised that the post reply/comment to a blog post is not enabled when your selection is on a comment .This would be the typical usage scenario when you tend to read the comments, right ? I expanded the treeview scrolled down to your comment , decided to add my own , hit CTRL + R , nothing happend.I right clicked on the comment, Post a reply was disabled.Subsequently i selected the blog post and then hit CTRL + R and the reply dialog popped.<br /><br />One more thing i have observed is , since the application shifted to the new netvantage suite , the memory foot print has increased and sometimes it probably doesnot release UI handles even when i minimise the application.Haven't noticed or tried to check it out consciously but have you observed a change in memory footprint between the Jubilee RC and existing release ?<br /><br /> <br />Regards,<br />Ajay,<br />http://cyn.in
ajay dot mahale at gmail dot com (Ajay Mahale)
Thursday, 25 January 2007 08:53:14 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I am running Vista Ultimate RTM (as published on 30 Nov 06 on MSDN) 32 Bit version and I have .Net 1.0,1.1,2.0,3.0 installed.
1.0 looks like a pointer to 1.1 and I don't know what added it.
1.1 from Visual Studio 2003+updates
2.0 from Windows Vista core install and updated by Visual Studio 2005
3.0 from Windows Vista core install
Hope this helps,
John
John whittingham
Thursday, 25 January 2007 13:14:19 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Hi there,
Thanks for the RC. It's seems a tonne better than before. Definately going to run as my stable reader now.
Only problem I've had so far is that the OPML the RC generates does not validate and cannot be imported by Google Reader. I don't know if this is a standards thing or a problem with the XML but thought it worth bringing up.
Matt Povey
Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:39:04 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Matt,
What were the validation errors? As for Google Reader, maybe the problem is that it doesn't supported categories (i.e. nested outlines in the OPML files)? I can import OPML files from RSS Bandit into every RSS reader I've tried from Bloglines to IE 7 so I doubt the problem is with our OPML.
Dare Obasanjo
Friday, 26 January 2007 10:45:14 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Dare,
Thanks for that. I ran my opml through the kbcafe validator and got :
OPML version 1.0. Link< body / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified, use text instead. Link< outline / outline > title attribute is unspecified
Etc......
Which does seem to be moaning about outline tags.
Actually, I have since successfully imported the OPML into Newshutch so had concluded that it is Google who are hookey.
Cheers for replying. Newshutch wins over Google for now.
Matt Povey
Sunday, 28 January 2007 07:13:49 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Congratulations on a new release and thanks for an excellent program. Here are a couple of bugs/questions about the 1.5.0.5 RC.
1) When I click on the plus sign beside a feed title to expand to see the comments, all comments get downloaded once again and they all show up as unread, even though I've already read them the day before. And sometimes (in a situation like above, not the first time reading them), when I select one of the comments to read, all of them are marked read. Also, I checked comments watching for some feed titles (like this one) but I don't think it works, even when there are new comments, the feed title still displays as read.
2) I can't get the adblocker plugin to work with this new version. It used to work beautifully with 1.3.0.42. Please bring it back.
3) I also sometimes get the big red X on where the menu bar and toolbar is. I noticed that it generally happens when I hear the feed discovered sound and when the feed discovery icon lights up.
4) The feed subscriptions list on the left autocenters itself, and I think it is very annoying, cause I have to horizontal scroll each time I want to select a new category.
5) The automatically mark read should be an option and not a permanent setting. Also, sometimes it doesn't work. Especially when the feed items are only a couple of lines long, there is no way the middle ones get marked read because you cannot scroll. A PalmOS program called QuickNews has a similar feature that works quite nicely. It only marks items read when the end of the item is reached via scrolling, and/or if the whole item has been visible for a set time ( afew secs).
6) The configuration of panes and their sizes should be saved between sessions. It is annoying to have to re-adjust them everytime.
I hope the above is useful info for you. Thx again for the Bandit :)
Adam.
Adam
Sunday, 28 January 2007 09:38:55 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Many thanks for the new features. The "Auto-Read-While-You-Scroll" function rocks!<br /><br />One very little thing, that I (font fetishist) have to complain (in all versions): you can set the font of the post list just fine - but the feed subscriptions tree automatically takes a smaller font with strange letter spacing, so that ClearType doesn't seem to work on the tree). Try the new Office 2007 font Calibri, 9,75 pt.<br /><br />THANKS!<br />Ringelnatz
splattne@delete-this-yahoo.com (Ringelnatz)
Tuesday, 30 January 2007 16:36:14 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Very very broken for me ( XP SP2 ) doing a category update replaces the entire menu /tool bar with a large red cross....
send me an email and I will reply with the screen shot
Zohar Melamed
Wednesday, 31 January 2007 20:13:46 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Zohar,
That issue will be fixed in the final release. I checked in a fix for it yesterday.
Ringelnatz,
This is an issue that we are looking into.
Adam,
1. We don't cache read state for comments between launches of the application since people rarely check them twice.
2. What is the problem you've been having?
3. Fixed.
4. We'll look into that
5. You can change this easily by using another item formatter. See the docs at http://www.rssbandit.org/docs/html/getting_started/newspaper_views.htm
6. Thanks for reporting this, a number of users have complained about this.
Dare Obasanjo
Thursday, 01 February 2007 07:08:23 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Uh oh, I found another serious bug...
When a feed is highlighted in the "Feed Subscriptions" panel, and I press Delete to delete the highlighted feed, a DIFFERENT feed gets deleted! I think it's the previously highlighted one -- anyway it's one above or below. The affected feeds were all in the same subcategory.
For cases like this it would be very helpful if the confirmation dialog showed the name of the feed that's about to be deleted. Right now all you can do is click OK and hope for the best.
Now I'm off to restore my feeds from a backup...
Chris Nahr
Thursday, 01 February 2007 11:46:10 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
If you expand a headline to show comments below it and then run the mouse pointer over the comment lines, the text of the comment line is redrawn with different spacing over the top of what is already there making an unreadable mess. I think it is probably a GDI/GDI+ mismatch.
It only affects comments and not main articles.
Simon Jones
Simon Jones
Thursday, 01 February 2007 11:48:07 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Another issue is that scrolling through the newspaper view can leave up to seven items unread as they can't scroll near enough to the top to be marked as read.
Simon Jones
Simon Jones
Saturday, 10 February 2007 05:51:56 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I miss the auto hide feature of the navigation pane... Comes in handy when reading feeds in portrait made on my Tablet PC. Otherwise looks good!
brian@holisticdeveloper.com (Brian Baker)
Friday, 16 February 2007 05:14:42 (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I was getting the same Vista DEP errors on install, but I was able to do an admin install (msiexec /a), and just set up the shortcuts manually - no problem.
ghurlman*AT*squaretwo*DOT*net (Greg Hurlman)
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